Tuesday, August 5, 2008

Breaking Dawn



Who's read it and what did you think?

Don't read the comments if you haven't read or finished it and don't want to be spoiled.

8 comments:

The Gomes Family said...

I have four chapters left that I will read at Lunch, then we can talk. I am disappointed, I feel like the book was media driven not Stephenie driven like the previous 3 books. I wasn't happy about the constant love making that commenced. I think that it could have been more appropriately mentioned and not the focus of one chapter. That gives all the little girls and boys reading it the wrong impression about sex and the constant want for it! I will go more into detail in a few hours after I finish. I am glad you posted this, I talked to Robyn yesterday and told her to do it!

Kirsten said...

I thought there was a good amount of passion without it being gross. I think it was appropriate because that's how Edward and Bella are with each other. They're passionate and I'm glad they can finally give in to it.

I don't think it was media driven, I think it's the story the author always wanted to tell. I was surprised at the direction the book went (all my theories were WAY off) but I enjoyed it.

Robyn said...

I thought that the sex storyline would be like, we see their wedding and then the next thing we know, they're back from their honeymoon and we would hear Bella tastfully reflecting back on it, so I was surprised that Stephenie took us with them on their honeymoon. I was glad nothing was graphic. I think the worst it got was Edward "surrendering with a groan" (swoon!) or maybe "His response was instant, quickly followed by his rebuff." But even then, I don't think a 12 year-old would read into those two comments like I would. I enjoyed the honeymoon stuff like Kirsten, and I'm glad that two married people are shown to be sexually active, (because that's the way things should be - married first, then lots of sex), but I agree with Lisa that this just isn't something kids ought to be reading. Not that it's the worst thing in the world, because it's definitely not, but there are more wholesome things they could devour. I'm glad I'm not a kid, though!

I thought there should have been an epilogue at the end that showed their life a little further down the road. Like Bella, Edward, Jacob, and Nessie (the name Renesmee is too much of an abomination to use here) attending college together, or some other normal mythical-creature-pretending-to-be-human type of thing that's kind of funny, but bittersweet. I felt like things resolved too quickly. I also used to make fun of all the people who hoped that Bella and Edward would have a baby, thinking that was such a juvenile wish and that Stephenie had better taste than that. I was wrong. She doesn't have better taste. Once Bella became pregnant, I thought it was too obvious that it would be a girl and Jacob would imprint on her. The whole baby thing kind of ruined the book for me. I thought this fourth book was so much more sensational (in a bad way) than the other three. Everything was life and death all the time. I would have appreciated more humor and more normal stuff (like how a hot vampire interacts with a guy like J. Jenks). I thought they should have kicked Volturi trash, too. That was also disappointing.

I really liked other things about the book. I liked the wedding, honeymoon, transformation, Jacob's perspective, Garrett's speech, and Bella's power. I laughed out loud when I came upon the asterix and followed it back to the Vampire Index. I think I liked the book, but I'm not sure. I'll have to give it a second read. It's definitely not my favorite book of the four, but maybe I was too shocked by the baby thing to fully appreciate it. I hope Stephenie Meyer puts some additional things on her website from Breaking Dawn. I'm really hoping for an epilogue when I read the last page.

The Gomes Family said...

I finished it I was disappointed. I felt that there was no closure, I agree with Robyn there should have been an Epilogue about their life in the future. My point is that it was too sex driven for the age group it is geared for. I appreciate sex but I am married and old, I am worried for the little pre-teens who are reading and wondering,"is sex really that blissful that I would want it over and over and over again and that is all I will think about". Shame on Stephenie Meyer. Breaking Dawn didn't have the same feeling as the first Three books. It didn't seem like it all came from Stephenie or that is was media and world driven.
The sexual tension between the two was minimized because they had sex. I missed the tension. That was addictive to me. I loved the passion, the passion in the sex chapter was great for an older audience, she should have written a PG version for young kids and this version for us old maids.

Oh what a horrid name Renesmee for her daughter blahhhhh!

knitaholic310 said...

I hate the name Renesmee too! That is classic LDS though to combine names of people in your existing family. I know an awful lot of Amy Jos, Raelyns, Ashdons, etc.,

I like Jacob's perspective, but hated that he imprinted with Nessie.It is disgusting that he has had a relationship with Bella already and will eventually with her daughter. I thought the birth scene was way too graphic. I did not like how Bella conveniently skipped over all the newborn vampire trials. I was bummed that there was no HUGE good vampires against bad vampires battle at the end, so anticlimactic. It is true that Bella kicked some butt (mentally), but I really wanted some of those smug Italian vampires to get it. I got sick of Edward's moody depressingness on their honeymoon. I thought it was unrealistic and lame that Bella made pretty much no real sacrifices in the book: she still got to see her dad, she had a baby (which she thought she never could), she seamlessly went from dead human to vampire without the uncontrolled thirst and emotions, she didn't even really have to learn how to hunt. Maybe Meyer was trying to redeem Bella since she was so weak, clueless, and accident prone all the time as a human.

I liked the lovey stuff. (Although, if their first time was in the ocean, it would have stung.) Yes, I thought it would be a little inappropriate for LDS tweens and teens if they really analyze that stuff, but for the ones that are already doing all that stuff, it was probably tame. I too thought it was good that a married couple was so active. Isn't that what people want ideally?

I liked learning about all the different vampire powers. I liked that Bella turned out to be very powerful in the end.

Do you all think Meyer has "daddy issues"? It seems like she put a lot of father figure/love interest stuff in. Jacob and Edward were always protecting Bella and sometimes treating her like a child (Edward) by not telling her everything that was going on and not allowing her to make her own choices. And also the whole Quliete guys imprinting with toddlers and babies thing and taking care of them and then having a romantic relationship with them later.

I think Stephanie Meyer is incapable of writing an unhappy ending to a story. She did that with the HOST and I was pretty disappointed. I think something sticks with you longer if things don't get wrapped up so quickly and painlessly.

My burning questions:

Why can guy vampires impregnate human women, but vampire ladies can't conceive children?

How can Jacob and Nessie be compatible for the reason above and also that by nature werewolves and vampires are natural enemies?

Why would Meyer write an encyclopedia of her series, are there people really that TWI-hard?

This is a dumb question, but I don't play chess. What is the significance of the cover? It seems less cool than the other ones.

I liked the book, but didn't love it. It was kind of soulless. I agree with the comments about it being media driven and sensational in a bad way. J.K Rowling at least killed some of her characters off and that added a lot of depth to her books since everything else was usually solved by magic or chance. Meyer can't part with anyone important and it cheapens her story, shouldn't there be some major death, destruction and violence in a book about vampires and werewolves? Instead they were practically having a month long house party together at the Cullen's. I really think I would have been happier if Jacob was doomed to wander the earth alone and pine for Bella. I was so angry about the Jacob-Nessie imprinting that I called my friend late at night to yell about it. She doesn't mind though, she called me late at night because of the Jack-Kate backwards piggyback scene from LOST so we're even.

Don't mistake my angry tone for annoyance at any of you or your comments. I just really get into stuff I read. I think I need a book club, but none of my friends are as interested in YA fiction as I am:(

Mical said...

I really enjoyed this book. I don't think it was my favorite, but I thought there were alot of great twists and nothing that I expected. I feel differently about the baby part. I was really glad that she concieved a child. That was one of the unsettling things to me about Bella wanting to become a vampire. It was the only human experience I thought would be sad for her to miss out on, so I am glad that Stephanie put that in.

Katy said...

I really liked the book too. I am a fan of happy endings, so I didn't mind the lack of death or a big battle scene.

Stephanie said...

I thought the book was good, although I wasn't as addicted to it like I was her previous books. Never-the-less, I liked it though and I always recommend the series to friends. And I could've had more details on the love making scene, but that's just me.